Tim: The goat I'm talking about is a Pontiac GTO that I rebuilt in high school. And I couldn't have rebuilt it without a shop class. And I wouldn't have had a shop class unless I was willing to fight for it.
Randy: So that was the endangered species you saved?
Tim: Well, it was almost extinct. But I felt passionately that kids like me should have a place to work with their hands.
Randy: And the school didn't want that?
Tim: It was a budget thing. What really stuck in my craw was they weren't gonna touch the music department. You know, I didn't relate to bass bassoons and oboes. So I went to the principal office's and said, "Oh, this will come in real handy. Get a flat tire. Kid's like, 'I can't use a jack. Maybe you can pump the car with a glockenspiel'".
Randy: Bit over the top, Dad.
Tim: Exactly, it was over the top. The way I put it... Well, a lot of people thought I just wanted to destroy the music department. And all I really wanted to do was save the shop class. My passion got in the way of my vision.