Pamela: Okay, now, you two obviously have issues to resolve, but one thing to keep in mind is that having occasional arguments is normal, and it's even healthy. So what we'll do is try to find out the deeper reasons why you argue so that we can begin to change any any particularly harmful behavior. [Ray nods] And one thing that you've got going for you here is an attitude of cooperation. Believe me, some partners have to be dragged into this kicking and screaming.
Debra: Wait a minute, wait a minute-
Ray: Pamela, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to heal this marriage.