Ray: I know this looks bad but writing doesn't only happen when you're writing. A big part of writing is actually the thinking. Sometimes you're just thinking, and you've got to just say: Stop thinking about it, so you can just really "think about it." That's what we were doing here with the paper football thing, just letting the thoughts jell up. I know. Look, it sounds crazy, but that is the writing process. So now you know.
Debra: Yes, I do.